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  Could You Forgive the Watchtower?

  by Ms. Whip in

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  did that question make you feel anger?

  did you automatically say "no way, never?

  i've been reading a little bit about what anger, resentment & bitterness does to our health.

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  peacefulpete said:

  Excuse my crassness but its all a bunch of bunk this forgive or not to fogive stuff. I understand the attraction to feel good effusive gushing self therapy, I just feel the real healing comes when you come to terms with just how stupid we humans are. We were lucky our parents weren't approached by a worse cult. The more I become aware of politics and religion the more I'm convinced people are stupid. Its like being mad at the cat for eating baloney rind and puking on the couch. Do you have to forgive the cat or do you just clean up the mess and go, Oh well.

  lol "Its like being mad at the cat for eating baloney rind and puking on the couch. Do you have to forgive the cat or do you just clean up the mess and go, Oh well." haha that's a great analogy and one i can relate to. (well not me, but my cat) yeah i agree pete, people are stupid. the best response would be to laugh at how stupid jws are and move on. for some (most) people it's hard to move on with daggers stuck into our backs...clear through our hearts. we are walking wounded. as far as "feel good effusive gushing self therapy" (I had to google that term lol) most of us do not have access to a "good friend" to talk to, a skilled counselor, or a religious confidant. our only recourse is "self therapy" a tv show i usually gravitate toward on TLC is "Clean Sweep" where a team of experts invade a Pack Rat's house and make them throw everything away and design new living spaces for them. it's always a lot of emotion when the pack rat is forced to throw/sell/give away trash they've held on to for years. but, in the end they are so happy to have such a nice uncluttered clean space. a fresh start. forgiveness is just a way of throwing away the emotional clutter. the people we forgive will usually have no clue (1. how much they hurt us) (2. that they needed forgiving) & (3. that we forgive them). if you are strong enough and have put all the watchtower crap behind you...and you can clean up the mess yourself and go. that's awesome. i, however, have let myself be "the victim." my emotional life got way out of control. i don't have any team of experts coming in to help me. so, i need the gushy self help stuff to move on.
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  Could You Forgive the Watchtower?

  by Ms. Whip in

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  did that question make you feel anger?

  did you automatically say "no way, never?

  i've been reading a little bit about what anger, resentment & bitterness does to our health.

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  This is a new concept to me as well. If you had asked me yesterday or the day before if I could forgive the Watchtower for my tragically wasted life, I would have said "hell no!" and meant it.

  For many years I have been lugging around some over-stuffed, unattractive, painfully heavy baggage. Every time something negative would happen in my life I would grab it and put it into my overloaded/distorted bag. Whenever anyone crossed my path...I'd rip my baggage open, pour it all over the floor and point "Look, just look, look at all this shit I have gone through...look what they did to me!" Then I'd pick it all up again (in tears) and repeat the same action again, and again, and again.

  Every time I open that suitcase, I am allowing the Watchtower to hurt me over and over again. It has made me physically sick. I know my immune system is weakened. I know my emotions and mental state are suffering.

  Whether you agree or not, doctors/people are finding out that there is a link between harboring unforgiveness, bitterness, anger, fear, resentment and physical disease.

  Forgiving the Watchtower does not mean that I condone their actions (past or current), it does not mean that I approve of them, it does not mean that I will forget the harm they have caused (or are causing) me, you and thousands of others.

  I forgive them so that they cannot continue to abuse me (us).

  I do not forgive their failed prophecies. I do not forgive that they let thousands of people die because of their erroneous blood transfusion rules. I do not forgive their destroying thousands of lives and families because of their unloving and inhumane shunning rules. I do not forgive, nor forget these things.

  I do forgive the old, withered men who perpetuated all of these painful lies on millions of people. I forgive the mislead, yet sincere elders who thought they were doing the right thing for God. I forgive the self-righteous witnesses who imposed their narrow-minded consciences on me. I forgive these sinful people. I forgive them so that I may take back my life, so I may become empowered to change my own life for the better. I forgive them so that they no longer have the ability to hurt me.

  I know the majority here are not ready to forgive and release the hurt.

  I'm just tired of carrying all that crap with me. Being a witness is all I have known. I was born and raised, I had no choice. I don't know what the future holds and how much I truly can forgive. All I know is it is doing me more harm than good to carry this anger/resentment with me. Of course I can never forget. Everyday will be a challenge to keep forgiving.
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  Could You Forgive the Watchtower?

  by Ms. Whip in

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  did that question make you feel anger?

  did you automatically say "no way, never?

  i've been reading a little bit about what anger, resentment & bitterness does to our health.

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  Did that question make you feel anger? Did you automatically say "no way, never?"

  I've been reading a little bit about what anger, resentment & bitterness does to our health.

  It seems from all the talk that it is important to express your anger, talk about your bitterness, release the resentment. If you hold it all in it makes you literally sick.

  Ever wonder why you may be depressed (apart from all the other biological reasons) is that you have not expressed your anger/frustration/hurt/pain enough. Depression is often “anger turned inwards”—that is, you end up despising yourself because you let it happen or you feel guilty because you have so much hatred and want to hurt those who hurt you.

  What would be the best way to deal with the pain that the Watchtower caused us?

  My guess would be to talk about it. Like we do in this forum. Get the frustration, anger, resentment, bitterness out of our system. Allow time to heal our wounds.

  But, here is where I ask "Could You Forgive the Watchtower?"

  The reason I ask this, is that it seems although it is important/healthy/necessary to talk about the anger etc. we feel, if we dwell too long on it it can make us sick.

  Talking about the pain/hurt that the Watchtower or other people have caused us over and over and over is like ripping the scab off of a cut that is healing. Every time you rip the scabb off you bleed again. You are causing yourself more pain and the possibility of a larger scar.

  It has been proven that anger/resentment/bitterness and thier stress can and do cause heart attacks, cancer, autoimmune illnesses (Rheumatoid Arthritis, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Lupus) depression, mental health problems and death.

  If we learn to forgive those who have hurt us we no longer give them the power to keep on hurting us.

  When you forgive someone, it doesn't mean that you condone, approve or forget the hurt. Forgive the person not what they have done. It means the elder that disfellowshipped you, the witness that hurt your feelings, the man that wrote the watchtower article, the parent that forced/inforced watchtower rules and theology on you, the brother or sister or cousin or uncle who shunned you, the husband or wife who left you because of the religion, the son or daughter who turned their back on you. Forgive them.

  This will take courage. You have to make the decision to forgive. You will have to give up the grudge. You will no longer be a victim. You will have to stop "being right" and making the other person "wrong". You will have to find a new way to think about the person who wronged you. The person does not have to say sorry for you to forgive. You are forgiving them to free yourself from the pain and devastation their hurt caused you.

  If you believe in some kind of higher power. Ask for help to forgive.

  If you do not, start a journal or post on this board who you forgive.

  Realize that the anger and bitterness is a sick disgusting tumor inside you that will grow and fester. When you forgive imagine the festering ooze of pain/hurt/bitterness/anger leaving your mind/heart/body.

  I have never done this. But, since I was the one who brought it up, I suppose I will go first.

  I forgive my father for dying.

  I forgive my mother for ignoring me.

  I forgive Pam for being a hypocritical witness.

  I forgive my witness friends for leaving me when I left them.

  I know I have so many more to forgive. The person I will have to work the hardest at is forgiving myself.
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  OMG... Connie Chung...

  by Elsewhere in

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  words cannot describe this little video connie recently made.... just see for yourself:.

  http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=tcozkfpbmaa&eurl=http%3a//www.drudgereport.com/&iurl=http%3a//sjl-static6.sjl.youtube.com/vi/tcozkfpbmaa/2.jpg&t=oegstopdsklbglcw64g8nzgqh_hrhiv8.

  she's almost adorable in how clumsy she is.

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  is she related to yoko?
  
  I can just see Maury Povich egging her on and laughing in the sidelines.
  
  I do think connie does a slightly better job than yoko.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHdWBT46QA (you have to wait until about 2:55 to hear her)
  They should have turned her mic on and off like they did for mrs. lennon.
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  Show us your picture

  by Honesty in

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  that is, if you are able to without the prospect of facing a three-man kangaroo court appointed by jerhover to keep the congregation clean from apostate influences.. i'll go first: .

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  jojo, bridgid is right....you're darn cute!

  bridg...you're beautiful! what a great smile!
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  Show us your picture

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  that is, if you are able to without the prospect of facing a three-man kangaroo court appointed by jerhover to keep the congregation clean from apostate influences.. i'll go first: .

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  http://www.mrsikhnet.com/videos/wmv/Guruka%20Singh%20-%20Ishnaan%20Therapy%20-%20Cold%20Shower.wmv
  
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  ok, i admit it. i have a crush on Jesus OFG. too bad he wears dresses is married.

  -whip
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  in the name of OFG i pray, amen
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  bed head hair lol
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  My Birthday

  by Farkel in

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  today is my birthday.

  i'm 58.. i don't feel a year older than i did yesterday.. farkel, who is 25 at heart.......

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  Here's a Pinata for your birthday full of pagan candy.

  Blindfold me, spin me around & let me spank your monkey.